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Post by Stretch on Jan 31, 2010 18:40:54 GMT -6
Yeah Cody, you can go sit in your completed shop and pout. ;D I will definitely be having a party to celebrate "completion." I'm afraid that in my case, getting as far as you've gotten and actually knocking out a project in there, it could be five or ten years down the road before I got much more completed on the shop. ;D Great job, and I expect an invite to that party, as well. That's great Jerry cause I expect you to be there! I don't know when the party will be, but there will be an open invitation to membership here.
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Post by Ruffnek on Jan 31, 2010 20:27:21 GMT -6
I volunteer to be a designated driver for anyone from the Tyler (or New Chapel Hill) area. ;D
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Post by wisardd1 on Feb 1, 2010 11:45:32 GMT -6
very nice shop. Big and roomy. Where's the bar and jukebox?
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Post by boodrow on Feb 2, 2010 10:52:55 GMT -6
Cody ur on for the designated driver. Boodrow
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Post by larryh86gt on Feb 4, 2010 9:58:17 GMT -6
Shop? Shop? I don't got no stinkin shop! This is my "shop": My surface planer and 10" chop saw on a work bench in the garage. I won't work wood in the garage. Can't get dust on the Fiero. My shed is where most everything else hibernates in the winter. Jointer/planer on casters. Table saw table leaning on wall to the left. Sawhorses for the table saw table. The table saw on a shelf at the back of the shed. The 12" chop saw on the back shelf. Not a lot of woodworking gets done in the winter. The shed is fairly packed. Larry
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Post by sawduster on Feb 4, 2010 10:48:16 GMT -6
Larry, I had a shop just like that one at my old house, except I didn't have a planer or jointer. My table saw (when I finally got one and no longer had to use my hand held circular saw mounted under a piece of plywood) was an 8" B&D that I could more easily carry out of the shed to a "bench" made from a couple saw horses and a piece of ply. One does what one has to do to get the job done.
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Post by Ruffnek on Feb 4, 2010 12:30:17 GMT -6
I'm impressed by your willingness to woodwork, even with so little space.
I do not envy you all of that white chit I see in the pic. That makes it even tougher.
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Post by fredbelknap on Feb 4, 2010 15:02:04 GMT -6
Looks a little crowded, come summer you can move it out in the yard. Was wondering how those two fences worked on the TS?
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Post by Leo Voisine on Feb 4, 2010 17:34:48 GMT -6
PLEASE - do NOT be intimidated by those that have larger than life shops. HONESTLY - a 8x10 shop in a shed is FAR more that what I started with. I had a Black and Decker jig saw, a borrowed hand held belt sander, and a really cheap hand drill to get started with. A 8x 10 shop would have been a DREAM shop to me at that time in my life. Cody / Autobodyman / and others - I mean nothing against you in this - please do NOT be offended - but I would LOVE nothing more that to encourage a budding woodworker to think about this ---- YOU DO NOT need a DREAM shop to make really nice stuff. Sooo we can show off as much as we want -- but what impresses me most? Seeing what a person can do do with a jig saw and a borrowed belt sander. MAN - THAT - is ingenuity. To heII with the $20,000 in machines - I wanna see what us do with a buck ninety eight no name brand no nonsense - no braggin - workshop. Don't judge our obsession with spending money - with workmanship. Geez - after all who was it that said - its not the arrow, its the indian that gets the buffalo 20,000 to 50,000 dollar shops be dammed -- where is the real world? That stuff is just show off stuff!!! Myself included! I don't want anybody to feel intimidated I wanna see the real stuff I would love for nothing more than to encourage nothing more than to say -- YOU CAN do this - and you do NOT need a Norm Abrams shop to DO IT. So come-on - Those of you with buck ninty eight shops - Fess up --- PLEASE!! YOU - impress me more than my own shop, cause I am getting lazy anyway. Does anybody agree with me? ??
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Post by sawduster on Feb 4, 2010 18:23:01 GMT -6
Right on, Leo. My little storage shed shop I mentioned above was not my first "shop". When we lived in a second story apartment, I made lots of stuff on the patio with an old Craftsman hand held circular saw, a B&D jigsaw and a hand full of chisels and hammers. Later I got a 1/4" Crapsman router (which I still have but haven't used in forever) and a few bits.
I built a big ugly bench cabinet thing that used the folded up bench as a door for the top of the cabinet. Hung my circular saw under it and used a piece of 3/4" plywood and a couple clamps for a rip fence. That lived on the patio till the manager made me get rid of it. It was that ugly. ;D
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Post by Ruffnek on Feb 4, 2010 20:13:59 GMT -6
As I wrote in a post last night, I've been reading Krenov. He started in a tiny basement workshop. For machinery, he had a bandsaw, dat's it. No jointer and no tablesaw. In fact, I don't believe he ever used a tablesaw. Krenov made heirloom furniture out of that little tiny shop...furniture that made him world famous as a cabinetmaker.
After he retired from teaching at the College of the Redwoods, he moved his stuff into a tiny room out back of the main workshop. He continued to build heirloom cabinets from that tiny shop until his vision failed and then he made wooden planes by feel and intuition.
Hey, I love my shop and I don't feel a bit embarrassed about it. I've worked hard all my life to be able to afford the luxury of a stand-alone shop and quality power tools.
But, they are exactly that, a luxury, and by no means a necessity for woodworking, even high-end woodworking as proven by Krenov and many others.
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Post by larryh86gt on Feb 4, 2010 20:42:30 GMT -6
Looks a little crowded, come summer you can move it out in the yard. Was wondering how those two fences worked on the TS? I don't use both of them together often but every now and then I rip something that is pretty long and the 2 fences keep me straight with no wooble. Good eye.
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Post by admin on Feb 4, 2010 20:57:18 GMT -6
Frankly, I'd be safe to say a fella could build almost anything with a few hand tools. mallet, chisel (1/4" would be slow, but would fit into most gaps), handsaw, block plane, tape measure, speed square, pencil, and a rasp (four in hand) as well as a couple sheets of sandpaper.
However, those machines are quite handy to have. They make long hard jobs quite simplistic. When I had one dirt cheap backsaw, on bench plane, and a couple rasps, I could do 'ok'. I still do ok, it just doesn't take as long.
One thing I did realize. Those machines, they don't make the woodworker. I've got five times as many woodworking machines as I wanted when I started out, and frankly, I still aint good at woodworking. The machines help, but they don't do the work for ya and make all the important decisions.
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Post by Leo Voisine on Feb 7, 2010 20:12:36 GMT -6
I do like to show off my shop - and I am not embarassed by it either - but I feel sometimes that someone with less might not be willing to share what they can do with less.
I bought my drum sander from a guy with a one car garage shop. You could barely move in his shop. He was selling his sander cause he didn't have the room for it.
What does he do for a living? He builds custom kitchen cabinets.
My shop has 5 times the equipment, and 3 times the size. I am just a hobbyist.
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Post by Ruffnek on Feb 7, 2010 21:29:57 GMT -6
I think it was Dano (Danford C. Jennings) who once wrote that given time, a person could build fine furniture with only a pocket knife. He's probably right but in my case, I don't have the luxury of time. With luck, I'll make my expected life span of 70 yrs old (according to scripture) in another 12 years. I've got lots and lots of things I want to build between now and then. The other reason is because I am not inclined to use archaic tools when I have a power tool that can do the job faster and better. There are times when a hand tool is just what the doctor ordered and that's when I use them; the rest of the time, I'll be taking advantage of modern technology. I'll reference Krenov again. In the days when he worked in that tiny basement shop with only a bandsaw, he had to flatten and joint all of his stock with a hand plane. On some of those planks, he said he would get a running start and throw himself into the plane. He said the work almost killed him. This is from THE woodworker who is most associated with the hand plane. For the fine finish work and joinery, he loved his planes and chisels but for the rough work, he basically said only a fool would do it if there was an easier way through power tools. Krenov was not known for mincing words, either.
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Post by larryh86gt on Feb 8, 2010 11:18:04 GMT -6
Guys and gals - Those of you that have shops - please just show them to us. I posted my pictures tongue in cheek and did not imply anything from it. I'm happy with my situation. Be happy with yours. Hell, I've come a long way from just my circular saw and belt sander days. Larry
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Post by brent on Feb 9, 2010 15:14:28 GMT -6
EDIT: crud, the images did not upload. I will try again later. Gotta head to the shop now :-)
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Post by brent on Feb 11, 2010 15:03:39 GMT -6
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Post by garyeng on Feb 11, 2010 19:42:44 GMT -6
Here is my shop. For the mean time I still share the space with my pickup on the weekdays. It as most shops are, a work in progress. I plan on building some upper cabinets this weekend to store some of the stuff that is sitting around. I have been working on the dust collection for the last 3 weeks and it is getting there. Coming into the shop. You see the tool boxes and the newest addition, my bandsaw. The back wall with the assembly table My 1023 table saw, the tool under the red blanket is my 6" jointer. This my downdraft table/ outfeed table for my table saw Right back side of the shop with my miter saw bench and radial arm saw Picture of dust collection hood I made for the radial arm saw. It works really well. Picture of the dust shroud and you can kind of see the dust pan under the miter saw. At least it keeps the dust in the same area. The router table which sits more of less in the center of the front half of the shop. The front right side of the shop. In this picture you see the drill press, molder, dual drum sander. By the drill press, you can see part of the bed for the lathe that I got from dick several years ago. I just have not set it up, or figured out where to set it sense I have moved. Looking from the right front corner to the back left corner of the shop. Looking from the left back corner to the front right corner of the shop. This is a picture of the box that is the brains to the remote control for my cyclone. There is a 240v relay with a 120v coil in the box. on the front is the remote control that when I press the remote, supplies the 120v to the coil that closes the relay and starts the cyclone. This is the cyclone that sits in its own closet attched to the back of the shop. There are no filters attached as it vents directly outside. This just shows the ducting leaving the cyclone closet and entering the attic area above the shop. That is about it for now. I still have a ton of stuff to do before I can call it a fully functional shop. I just can not stand all the cluter that is present in the shop right now. I also plan to build a car port outside the shop so that I can leave the pickup out of the shop. Thanks for looking, Gary
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Post by Beamer on Feb 11, 2010 19:59:15 GMT -6
WOOOHOO!!! Nice stuff, Gary and Brent!!! I dig the write ups from both of ya. Look's great. Thanks for sharing Gary - how's your cyclone workin' out for ya?
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