rhull
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Post by rhull on Nov 19, 2009 7:06:33 GMT -6
I've got a Grizzly G1182 model jointer (6"). I don't see myself upgrading to an 8" anytime in the forseeable future. But as I'm to a point where I need new knives, and I hate changing out the knives on the jointer, and I'm about to start a project with ~100bdft that will need jointing...I'm seriously considering a replacement cutterhead.
The shearing action on figured woods to help avoid tearout is attractive. The ease of replacing a cutter is attractive. The ease of twisting a cutter to resolve a nick is attractive.
Does anybody have a Shelix cutterhead on their jointer, that can give a firsthand report on how it performs, and if it lives up to expectations?
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Post by dicklaxt on Nov 19, 2009 7:29:59 GMT -6
No I don't have that cutter but you seem convinced thats what you need/want,,,,,,,,,do it my friend and don't look back.
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Post by rhull on Nov 19, 2009 8:34:57 GMT -6
Well, I think it's what I want if it lives up. But if somebody here can say it's crap, then I might rethink.
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Post by TDHofstetter on Nov 19, 2009 10:51:03 GMT -6
I don't want one, myself... mostly because of the initial outlay & continued maintenance costs. Those inserts aren't cheap.
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Post by fredbelknap on Nov 19, 2009 10:56:05 GMT -6
You can look at it like this , you are buying like four blades at a time. They can be rotaed three times. I would like to have a set for my jointer, might get a set next time. If you get them let us know how they work.
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Post by rhull on Nov 19, 2009 15:29:01 GMT -6
I don't want one, myself... mostly because of the initial outlay & continued maintenance costs. Those inserts aren't cheap. Hmmm...it took me about 3 years to need a change on my jointer blades. Seriously. I get in a lot of handtool time, so my jointer's been relegated for a lot of tasks. Between the hand tools, and the small projects I tend to do, my jointer hasn't processed a lot of bdft. I'm thinking the carbide inserts, with 4 sides, may keep me going for a good long time... |
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Post by brburns on Nov 19, 2009 18:14:24 GMT -6
I don't have the shelix on a jointer, but I do have one on the planer I got this summer. I love it. It isn't perfect. On gain where it is around a knot it CAN still tear out some. If you take a light cut that prety much goes away. It is far suppierior to straight blades IMHO. That being said, I don't have much of a problem with tear out on thejointer. I would love to have a Shelix, but I can't justify the cost. I'll probably find a way to sometime..... Oh, and the inserts are not cheap at all. But there ar 4 sides, they are carbide so the hold an edge really well, and if you nick them, you only have to replace the ones that are nicked, insted of replacing the enire blade like the straight blades.
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Post by lexrex on Nov 20, 2009 20:06:03 GMT -6
I have the grizzly spiral cutter on my jointer. I take 1/32 cuts at most and I can run a piece of wood through with the grain or against the grain and I still get a nice quality cut. Running against the grain will leave very miniscule tearouts that clean up with sandpaper or a plane quite easily. It's pretty amazing if I do say. My shop time is precious little these days and I don't really get a lot of joy tinkering with my machines. It's worth the extra cash to have easy maintenance and no hassle cuts so I can get the job done.
If I ever upgrade to a floor planer (grizz) I will probably save up for the spiral head model as well. I like my figured woods!
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Post by Ruffnek on Nov 20, 2009 23:03:26 GMT -6
I don't want one, myself... mostly because of the initial outlay & continued maintenance costs. Those inserts aren't cheap. Hmmm...it took me about 3 years to need a change on my jointer blades. Seriously. I get in a lot of handtool time, so my jointer's been relegated for a lot of tasks. Between the hand tools, and the small projects I tend to do, my jointer hasn't processed a lot of bdft. I'm thinking the carbide inserts, with 4 sides, may keep me going for a good long time... Rob, I think you just made a pretty good argument against the shelix cutterhead. If you only have to change the jointer blades every three years, then that's not much inconvenience compared to the cost of the shelix head. I know that changing blades is a major hassle (mine need it right now) but one hour or so every three years is tolerable. Now, if your shop time were to increase to where you were milling a lot more rough-cut lumber than now, maybe I could see justifying the expense. Also, if you use a planer, then that would be the tool to install the shelix cutterhead on as it could remove any tearout from the straight blades on the jointer. |
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Post by dicklaxt on Nov 21, 2009 6:46:12 GMT -6
Changing ever 3 years is asking a lot it only takes one hidden nail or some lumber with a lot of silica to make it an "All Bets Are Off" situation.
I'm a firm believer in paying the extra nickle up front and put your worries aside
IE: I put a $137 blade on my table saw,it still cut slick and smooth after 4 years of abuse with everything from dirty wood to aluminum angle.
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Post by rhull on Nov 27, 2009 10:22:36 GMT -6
Ah, nertz. I decided to just order some replacement knives. I couldn't justify the expense to myself...  |
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Post by Ruffnek on Nov 29, 2009 5:27:27 GMT -6
Ah, nertz. I decided to just order some replacement knives. I couldn't justify the expense to myself... Perfectly understandable, especially for hobby woodworkers like us. That Shelix head sure would be a nice-to-have, though.  |
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