Black T/N for bottle stopper plating.

[sachbvn]

Hey guys - upon some discussion, I've decided that the Chrome bottle stoppers I have been ordering really need to go, and I should look to some SS ones, I don't want someone being unhappy and then not saying anything to me so I can make things right with them.


I will order some SS ones - but I already have some Black T/N on the way.... 10 of them..... am I gambling by keeping them - or should they hold up better than Chrome?


Luckily I think I can still cancel my chrome stopper order with PSI because they were back ordered.


Zac

[boodrow]

Zac ive been usin the chrome ones for 2 years , sold the lady at work several of them , gave to friends and family , not a complaint yet. So I wouldnt cull the chrome ones yet . I do use the SS on my high end stoppers. Good sellin point and u get more money to help cover the expense of them. My 2 cents
Boodrow

[Doug B]

My advice would be to let your customers know up front why some stoppers cost more than others. Let them decide if they are willing to pay a premium for the Stainless Steel. They can't complain later if you tell them upfront what the issues are. Some folks are bargain hunters and might like the idea of getting a good deal.

[sachbvn]

I haven't looked super close yet - are SS stoppers guaranteed from whoever sells them not to pit or corrode? I mean, if I offered the guarantee that they would never pit - and one does - would PSI or whoever back it? Just curious. I may keep both, and just market the SS as a bit higher - I think that way it allows people to choose whether they want to "risk" it or not, and having an option kind of keeps me in the clear.


Thanks dudes!
Zac

[boodrow]

Zac google ruthniles she is who I buy the SS ones from. I think her website says they will never pit.
Boodrow

[sachbvn]

Hey Boodrow - will those SS Niles stoppers work on the PSI bottle stopper chuck? I think they will, not sure though.


Zac

[maverick31]

Jan 10, 2010 21:51:48 GMT -6 sachbvn said:

Hey Boodrow - will those SS Niles stoppers work on the PSI bottle stopper chuck? I think they will, not sure though.


Zac

I am curious about this too, I think when I finish up with the ones I have I am going to switch to the teardrop style for lower end and ruth niles for high end stoppers

[boodrow]

Zac the PS mandrel will work to a certain degree , screws on fine , but the base of the SS stoppers are smaller if I remeber correct , so I would go ahead and get one from Ruth , I havent yet , but goin to.
Boodrow

[boodrow]

TO clarify what I just posted , U cant turn the wood to match the stopper, the PSI mandrel is thicker , so if u want the stopper to be same thickness as the wood where the 2 come together , the PSI will NOT! That dont always matter , its a personal preferance.
Boodrow

[sachbvn]

Boodrow - I know what you are saying. The "base" of the stopper will be larger than the SS stopper if you use the PSI chuck to turn it.

Now, I like the ones Ruth Niles makes - but, I also kind of like the SS ones that PSI offers.... I'm assuming all SS is NOT equal.... PLUS I love the fact that the Niles SS is made in the USA at a family owned Machine Shop.



Zac

[rhull]

Zac, you clearly need to start drinking more wine so you can do a control test of the chrome bottle stopper. It would be the only responsible thing for you to do.

[boodrow]

Zac one other thing about the Ruth Niles stoppers , If u want to u can order without the o'rings installed if u want to buff um and make um look crome , thats the way I ordered mine , but never got rountoit. Just sold um in the dull SS finish. Im still goin to buff one just to see how good it looks.
Boodrow

And u were correct about the psi mandrel prob bein bigger.
Boodrow

[boodrow]

Zac one other thing I forgot to say , when u call her number she is the one ( Ruth ) that answers! First time I called I had to leave a message , but she returned my call quickly , very nice lady.
Boodrow

[Doug B]

I have Ruth's stopper mandrel too and the bushing is smaller diameter than the PSI, but so are her stopper bases. Like Boodrow said, it's just a matter of preference anyway...not critical like pen bushings are.

I especially like Ruth's because it has a MT2 taper so you don't need to use a drill chuck with it - it's just easier to set up and work with.

I don't know about the SS guarantee, but you ought to call Ruth anyway...she is a very nice lady.

One thing to watch for, is the depth of the required hole for the stoppers...I have some from CSUSA that require a deeper hole to be drilled in the stopper blank.