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Post by sachbvn on Dec 15, 2009 20:46:55 GMT -6
I haven't read all the replies but I can say this.....
NOBODY PLANS to get there hand/fingers caught up in the sawblade..... however - it pretty much could have ALWAYS been avoided....
SO..... how careful are you? Are you concerned about your fingers getting near that blade?
Zac
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Post by Leo Voisine on Dec 17, 2009 8:47:03 GMT -6
Only two choices? Really there are more.
Saw Stop gets Ferrarri sort of reviews on the quality of the saw.
The brake system is a bunch of B.S. as far as I am concerned. You can cut finger off on the band saw too. Absolutely NOT a consideration in my mind in purchasing a TS. As a matter of fact - you wil PAY for that system built into the saw.
Unisaw get everything else in the world compared to it. It IS the standard by which all other saws are measured. OVER rated a little maybe. Delta living on past years - maybe. Unisaw is an awesome chioce.
Between ONLY two choices it would be the Unisaw - and I don't like Delta.
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I would look seriously at the Grizzly - and would most likely buy the Grizzly saw. In fact - this choice is IN "my" distant furure plans.
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Post by wisardd1 on Dec 19, 2009 23:47:56 GMT -6
I'm listening! I usually do when I don't know what I am talking about!
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Post by sachbvn on Dec 20, 2009 14:10:37 GMT -6
Leo does make a good point.... if there is even the slightest of chances that having a SS will allow someone to let their guard down.... even just a little..... just because the accident doesn't have on the TS - it could happen at the jointer, the bandsaw, router table, etc.... and THOSE do NOT have brake systems.....
I never plan to own a SS because, while it may be a great saw system, the chance of a false "brake" is enough to make me look elsewhere.
Zac
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Post by lexrex on Dec 20, 2009 19:14:53 GMT -6
What is B.S. is the notion that having a table saw brake will somehow cause you to let your guard down at ANY tool.
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Post by sachbvn on Dec 21, 2009 0:59:42 GMT -6
Chris, I agree that it is completely ridiculous that someone would "let there guard down" because they have a saw stop, but - I do belive that "that guy" IS out there.
I think a GREAT place for saw stops would be woodshop classes in schools and colleges. THAT is where I think they should really market themselves.....however, most schools are cutting funds to extra programs, not replacing major pieces of machinery like a table saw.
Zac
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Post by lexrex on Dec 21, 2009 9:32:46 GMT -6
"That guy" should not be a woodworker. Has nothing to do with mechanical safety mechanisms.
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Post by sachbvn on Dec 21, 2009 11:58:03 GMT -6
Agreed - however, "that guy" shouldn't be a lot of things in the world, but he is.
Regardless of reason, I doubt it will ever find it's way into my shop - not to be in a pissing match, but I really don't even see it happening. Now - in years to come, if I am typing with a few less digits, sure - say I could've used a SS - but it would probably be something that I did wrong - and I'd admit to that.
Zac
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Post by fredbelknap on Dec 21, 2009 14:23:12 GMT -6
It would be a lot less painful to do something wrong with a SS than a Uni....  |
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Post by TDHofstetter on Dec 22, 2009 10:49:38 GMT -6
I just got another tidbit of info today that might factor in, too...
The stock SawStop cartridge won't work with a dado blade/stack, and the saw refuses to run without the cartridge engaged. You have to buy a second, special cartridge for dado cuts.
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Post by sachbvn on Dec 22, 2009 16:48:46 GMT -6
I just got another tidbit of info today that might factor in, too... The stock SawStop cartridge won't work with a dado blade/stack, and the saw refuses to run without the cartridge engaged. You have to buy a second, special cartridge for dado cuts. .....well of course it won't work with the stock cartridge!! So... makes you think.... did they over look that in the original design (duh) or did they purposely intend for you to have to buy a separate cartridge? Zac |
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Post by sawduster on Dec 23, 2009 8:31:29 GMT -6
I just got another tidbit of info today that might factor in, too... The stock SawStop cartridge won't work with a dado blade/stack, and the saw refuses to run without the cartridge engaged. You have to buy a second, special cartridge for dado cuts. .....well of course it won't work with the stock cartridge!! So... makes you think.... did they over look that in the original design (duh) or did they purposely intend for you to have to buy a separate cartridge? Zac You mean like with computers that originally had 8 bit systems, then 16 bit, then 32 . . .  |
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Post by hescores on Dec 24, 2009 10:49:33 GMT -6
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Post by lexrex on Dec 24, 2009 22:44:39 GMT -6
The problem is that most dado carts are 8" and there is not enough travel in the brake system to bridge that gap. They totally could have just outfitted the thing with full width dado cart brakes and been done with it but they'd need that 2" of travel. I have not looked at it in detail to find out whether it would even have been possible to do. Even if they were all profit, I don't think people set them off enough to make a big difference overall.
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Post by rebelwork on Dec 27, 2009 19:06:28 GMT -6
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Post by ictoos on Dec 29, 2009 0:29:21 GMT -6
Hey there;
As Jerry said, I bought the sawstop. I resisted for a while because of the inventors shenanigans, but at the end of the day, that brake is compelling to me.
More than that though, it really is a very good saw, well build and been running like a dream for about a year now. Haven't had kickback or any problems with it, knock wood.
K
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