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Post by TDHofstetter on Nov 21, 2009 14:38:12 GMT -6
Ok, now I'm torqued.
I've been sheetrocking walls & ceilings, merrily working along with good ol' SheetRock. Because this is a remodel job, I've had to do things a titch differently from the average 'rocker - like move furniture around underhead and plan full-sheet gaps to be filled in later & such.
So... a little while ago I got this latest pallet of SheetRock, right? Standard ol' United States Gypsum SheetRock brand, not the Chinese stuff.
Well, today I broke into that pallet & brought some more 'rock into the house to hang.
It doesn't have square edges any more! Some bozo got the bright idea of beveling one edge one way and the other edge the opposite (mating) way, presumably so the sheets would lap each other better.
BUT... these new sheets aren't 48" wide any more! That means these new stupid double-beveled sheets will NOT fit a 48"-wide full-sheet gap any more - not without trimming the overhanging edge off first.
PFFT!
It also means that once you've chosen a direction for one sheet & hung it, you HAVE to be SURE that the next sheet is cut with the bevels on the correct sides or you get to discard that sheet & cut another.
PFFFT! PFFFT!
I just wrote to USG to birch about it. How else will they get feedback? SOMEBODY's got to tell 'em that their stuff doesn't work as well any more, that people WANT that square edge BACK. The new beveled edges are more fragile then the square edges used to be, too... and they won't fit into a 48" storage space (or pickup bed) any more, EITHER.
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Post by dicklaxt on Nov 21, 2009 15:07:25 GMT -6
I would have been too,,,,,,,thats some cheesy BS right there,are you going to live with it or tell them to come pick up the remainder?
dick
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Post by CajunRider on Nov 21, 2009 15:39:47 GMT -6
I agree. Beveled edge is a bone head idea.
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Post by TDHofstetter on Nov 21, 2009 16:00:00 GMT -6
I would have been too,,,,,,,thats some cheesy BS right there,are you going to live with it or tell them to come pick up the remainder? dick I'll... deal with it, I guess. I need to get this rocking done so I can move on to other stuff, like insulating the shop. I just looked in the shop - I've got two pallets out there, one (the bottom one, figures) with 40 sheets of square-edged and the other (top) with about 30 more sheets of bevel-edged. If I tell 'em to come get it & replace it with square-edged, I've gotta' wait on the sheetrock till they can bring a truck over here... and they won't be very motivated. I can pick & choose a little, but it's sure a PITA to skivvy that dang bevel off the edge - it turns the knife away from the straightedge. |
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Post by dicklaxt on Nov 21, 2009 16:17:56 GMT -6
Does that mess up the taper on the rock itself?
dick
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Post by TDHofstetter on Nov 21, 2009 18:14:05 GMT -6
Fortunately, it's onlyabout a 1/2" edge bevel I have to trim off - the 2" taper is still there.
I just got back downstairs for a break - BOY I'm irritated.
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Post by Joe Lyddon on Nov 21, 2009 18:57:15 GMT -6
Do they make it without the taper? Sounds like they just unloaded some CRAP onto you when you weren't lookin! Maybe you can get Credit to your account after you tell them the Pain & Suffering you had to go through to use it?   ;D ;D |
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Post by sawduster on Nov 21, 2009 20:13:30 GMT -6
I was just at their website and they describe their standard sheetrock as being square edged with the tapered edge for taping as it has always had. I'm thinkin your distributor slipped in some specialty stuff rather than the standard sheetrock.
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Post by rrich on Nov 21, 2009 22:09:01 GMT -6
In new construction, Sheetrock is installed in Landscape mode. The vertical seams are only 4 feet long and makes for a wall with a less likelihood of vertical cracking.
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Todays floor to ceiling height is rarely 96 inches. Usually in new construction the height runs in the 94 to 95 inch range.
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Post by TDHofstetter on Nov 21, 2009 22:24:08 GMT -6
I was just at their website and they describe their standard sheetrock as being square edged with the tapered edge for taping as it has always had. I'm thinkin your distributor slipped in some specialty stuff rather than the standard sheetrock. I checked - it does have exactly the same USG-label strip at both ends... |
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Post by sawduster on Nov 22, 2009 9:09:32 GMT -6
One of my Son's-in-law works for a big drywall distributor in this area. I'll try to remember to ask him about this when they come up for turkey day. He's a buyer for them, so should know what is going on.
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Post by law on Nov 25, 2009 15:32:12 GMT -6
I sheet rocked my place last year and I didn't have a problem.
They were beveled edges and everything flowed pretty well.
I used approx 200 sheets so I would have noticed if there was a defect.
I bought my sheet rock from Home Depot.
I am glad I didn't run into your problem because I may not have been able to solve it like you did.
Wishing the best in the remodel.
I feel your pain.
Larry
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Post by sawduster on Nov 27, 2009 11:18:23 GMT -6
Well, I asked the son-in-law yesterday and he said he'd never heard of nor seen any rock like that. They buy from U.S.G. and he put in a call to the fella he works with at USG but had to leave a message. Definitely weird.
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Post by beagles on Nov 28, 2009 10:17:08 GMT -6
I was wandering through Home Depot today, saw the Sheetrock, and thought of "Torqued Tim"...
Not a bevel in sight...
Maybe the stuff only shows up in wholesale channels destined for contractors.
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Post by sawduster on Nov 28, 2009 16:59:14 GMT -6
The daughter and son-in-law stopped in today on their way back home and I asked if the fella from USG had called him back. He said that he had and that the only beveled sheet rock the fella could remember was some that used to be used back 15 or 20 years ago around these parts. He said one of their other factories up in Tim's neck of the woods might be still making it, but he couldn't imagine why. You don't suppose you got some that had been stored for a couple decades, do you? Long as it kept in a humidity controlled atmosphere the stuff would likely last for ever.
I'd get in touch with the distributor you got it from and raise a major stink and have them replace any you've got left.
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Post by TDHofstetter on Nov 28, 2009 17:58:57 GMT -6
How STRANGE. It's clearly brand-new, and clearly has the USG label (rip strip) along the top & bottom edges. No color fading where the edge was exposed but the face wasn't. It came from a yard that moves stock pretty fast, too.
Ah, well - it's nearly all hung now; I'm just workin' around those stupid bevels as best I can. I'll sure's beans be happy to see the end of it & get back into the square-edged stuff, though!
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Post by Joe Lyddon on Nov 28, 2009 22:53:32 GMT -6
I'd get in touch with the distributor you got it from and raise a major stink and have them replace any you've got left.
I agree...
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Post by rrich on Dec 3, 2009 23:32:57 GMT -6
Tim,
Are you talking about a bevel on the long edge of a sheet or something that is more like a snipe?
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Post by TDHofstetter on Dec 4, 2009 6:22:40 GMT -6
They look like this (in the stack):   Photography fixes everything - they're actually a lot worse than they look in those pics; there's about a 3/8" chamfer all along the edges. EDIT: I swear I'm NOT "back from the future"... my camera does that crap every time I change batteries. |
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Post by admin on Dec 4, 2009 8:00:17 GMT -6
Holy great big pictures from the future, Batman! <click> BEEP <click> [ping] KABOOOM. /me reholsters the ivory handled photo resizerizer. Photos wider than 800 Pixels scrudge up the 'search results' page until there's been 100 posts after 'em. Something to keep in mind.  |
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