Post by Beamer on May 16, 2010 15:22:57 GMT -6
Ok ...
The least favorite part of this house is the addition where the pool table is. It used to be a porch or patio or something and sometime ago the previous owners closed it in and had it made part of the square footage.
The dumb thing about it is that the roof is flat - real flat - very shallow pitch. I've measured it to be something like .5:12 - half an inch for every foot. Stupid. It's also only about 85" at the highest, and increasingly claustrophobic as you go further in. It's just annoying as all hell.
Up until now, I've only toyed with the idea of changing it. Tossing it aside usually because I thought it'd be too expensive to fix. Well, that changed this weekend when talking to several fellow woodworker types. They got me thinkin about it seriously since I have to replace the roof this summer anyway - now makes the most sense to do something about it if it doesn't break the bank.
So ... I set about measuring the whole house's roof as well as the addition. This way I have kind of an idea of how many squares the house roof will need anyway - informed customer and all that.
Here's the roof details of what I have currently:
That silly beaver tail off the back end is the roof in question. A point of note is that it starts a good 1' 9" lower than the bottom of the existing house roof - it drops real quick (carrying the pitch of the house roof) for about 4 feet then it flattens and goes to that crazy shallow slope.
Since the walls are framed for that slope, I'm pretty sure I'll have to open them up and do SOMEthing to 'em. What, I'm not sure, yet. But something.
Here's a shot of what we'd kinda like to end up with:
That new section, I thought I'd start up where the rest of the roof line is, to make it make more sense, of course. Carrying the pitch from the west facing roof (this is in the back, which faces south) and stopping at a gable on the back of the house. If we get real hung up on style, we might go with a hipped end there, but a gable actually suits me better as I think it'd be easier/cheaper.
My starting point is kinda grim, or at least I think it is. I've taken a video of the various challenges that I've got with this existing structure. Budget will be the deal breaker for this - if something like this takes more than 10-15k, it's out completely. But I'd sure hate to put a new roof on this place as-is and find out next year that it could be done for less than I think...
So ... here's a video of the inside and outside - pay no attention to the junk piled up in the back room ... or the fabulous paneling (someone had too much time on their hands - the grain of that paneling FLOWS around the rafters - grain matches up perfectly)....
Oh yeah ... and here's a sketchup file that created the above two shots. I have a gable or hipped roof and it also shows where there's an HVAC monstrosity up there to make matters worse. I don't think i'll hit it with the proposed gable roof, though. I'm gonna head out now and measure that to be sure.
What do you guys think? Could a crib wall be stuck in that gap - it'd be a really crazy shaped stub of a wall there on top of the current top-plate. I'd sure hate to have to rebuild all the walls ... that's a lot more work than I wanna get into, for sure.
The siding is T1-11 back there - the rest of the house is stucco.
There'd be a little level valley there between that existing porch extension and this new roof - i thought a simple little v-shaped ramp could be nailed down in there to give it a bit of slope so it can be flashed and shed water nice.
I plan to talk to some pros eventually but I always like to get the opinions of friends first
Thanks for lookin!
The least favorite part of this house is the addition where the pool table is. It used to be a porch or patio or something and sometime ago the previous owners closed it in and had it made part of the square footage.
The dumb thing about it is that the roof is flat - real flat - very shallow pitch. I've measured it to be something like .5:12 - half an inch for every foot. Stupid. It's also only about 85" at the highest, and increasingly claustrophobic as you go further in. It's just annoying as all hell.
Up until now, I've only toyed with the idea of changing it. Tossing it aside usually because I thought it'd be too expensive to fix. Well, that changed this weekend when talking to several fellow woodworker types. They got me thinkin about it seriously since I have to replace the roof this summer anyway - now makes the most sense to do something about it if it doesn't break the bank.
So ... I set about measuring the whole house's roof as well as the addition. This way I have kind of an idea of how many squares the house roof will need anyway - informed customer and all that.
Here's the roof details of what I have currently:
That silly beaver tail off the back end is the roof in question. A point of note is that it starts a good 1' 9" lower than the bottom of the existing house roof - it drops real quick (carrying the pitch of the house roof) for about 4 feet then it flattens and goes to that crazy shallow slope.
Since the walls are framed for that slope, I'm pretty sure I'll have to open them up and do SOMEthing to 'em. What, I'm not sure, yet. But something.
Here's a shot of what we'd kinda like to end up with:
That new section, I thought I'd start up where the rest of the roof line is, to make it make more sense, of course. Carrying the pitch from the west facing roof (this is in the back, which faces south) and stopping at a gable on the back of the house. If we get real hung up on style, we might go with a hipped end there, but a gable actually suits me better as I think it'd be easier/cheaper.
My starting point is kinda grim, or at least I think it is. I've taken a video of the various challenges that I've got with this existing structure. Budget will be the deal breaker for this - if something like this takes more than 10-15k, it's out completely. But I'd sure hate to put a new roof on this place as-is and find out next year that it could be done for less than I think...
So ... here's a video of the inside and outside - pay no attention to the junk piled up in the back room ... or the fabulous paneling (someone had too much time on their hands - the grain of that paneling FLOWS around the rafters - grain matches up perfectly)....
Oh yeah ... and here's a sketchup file that created the above two shots. I have a gable or hipped roof and it also shows where there's an HVAC monstrosity up there to make matters worse. I don't think i'll hit it with the proposed gable roof, though. I'm gonna head out now and measure that to be sure.
What do you guys think? Could a crib wall be stuck in that gap - it'd be a really crazy shaped stub of a wall there on top of the current top-plate. I'd sure hate to have to rebuild all the walls ... that's a lot more work than I wanna get into, for sure.
The siding is T1-11 back there - the rest of the house is stucco.
There'd be a little level valley there between that existing porch extension and this new roof - i thought a simple little v-shaped ramp could be nailed down in there to give it a bit of slope so it can be flashed and shed water nice.
I plan to talk to some pros eventually but I always like to get the opinions of friends first
Thanks for lookin!