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Post by triplefreak on Apr 22, 2010 17:37:12 GMT -6
I used some Nitrile (blue) gloves in my shop tonite for the first time. I used some CA glue to seal a turned blank.
There was a chemical reaction & the glove literally caught on fire.
Luckily, I was paying close attention, and got the glove off before it could burn me. I had to use a fire extinguisher to put out the fire. Let this be a warning to you.
Do not mix blue (rubber) gloves & CA adhesive.
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Post by gomer on Apr 22, 2010 17:45:53 GMT -6
I'm sure glad your 'middle finger" didn't get burned.
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Post by triplefreak on Apr 22, 2010 17:51:44 GMT -6
I'm sure glad your 'middle finger" didn't get burned. I fail to see any humor in this situation.
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Post by Ruffnek on Apr 22, 2010 18:09:53 GMT -6
I use nitrile gloves when applying finish, maybe even with CA glue before. Thanks for the warning.
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Post by TDHofstetter on Apr 22, 2010 18:27:22 GMT -6
Now ya got me nearly intrigued enough to dig out a nitrile (I've got purple) glove & some CA... Always BEEN interested in pyrotechnics in general, and sponateous combustion in particular.
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Post by sdb777 on Apr 22, 2010 18:36:11 GMT -6
Now I don't feel so stupid peeling hardened CA off my fingers and my wrists and my lower arm....sometimes. I get the stuff all over the place, so a glove wouldn't help much anyway....
Did you have anything else on the glove? Did it still have that 'powdery' stuff on it?
I've watched the paper towel starting 'smoking' when the CA starts to dry, but I thought it was a moisture reaction..... Another reason not to throw those papertowels in the trash until your absolutely positive that there won't be any fires!
Scott (BlueMan Group glove) B
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Post by boodrow on Apr 22, 2010 18:40:11 GMT -6
ROTHFLMAO Gomer Boodrow
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Post by boodrow on Apr 22, 2010 19:06:12 GMT -6
To follow up , ive never used gloves whilst usin CA glue. With that bein said I cant say one way or the other how the glue effects the gloves. I use my bare hands and peel off the dried chit. After bein a mechanic for 28+ years , it never bothered me to get chit on my hands , it will wipe off or wear off. Boodrow
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Post by sachbvn on Apr 22, 2010 19:17:33 GMT -6
Boodrow - the kind of chit you get on your hands from wiping and the kind that CA glue leaves is two totally different kinds of chit Jeez TF - glad you (and your shop) was ok! Makes me want to try it (like Tim said) just to see if it was a freak thing, or a guaranteed way to start a fire. Of course it would be controlled. I don't have the nitrile kind but I do have latex - I don't use any gloves while turning - only a tiny little plastic baggie when applying the thin CA to a blank while on the lathe - (thanks to Jerry for that tip) because it bleeds right through the towel and makes the whole thing stick to your finger. Zac
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Post by imahic on Apr 22, 2010 19:58:01 GMT -6
"just to see if it was a freak thing"
Was that pun intended?....lol
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Post by gomer on Apr 22, 2010 20:16:40 GMT -6
"just to see if it was a freak thing" Was that pun intended?....lol I can answer this... He sees no humor in the situation. So I would guess not.
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Post by gwanpa on Apr 22, 2010 21:19:20 GMT -6
Satellite City, the company that sells Hot Stuff CA glue, recommends using nitrile gloves and aprons to prevent contact.
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Post by maxwellsmart007 on Apr 22, 2010 22:48:03 GMT -6
That's odd - I switched TO nitrile gloves, after the cheap white gloves I was using kept burning through...
I've NEVER had a problem with the blue nitrile!!
Maybe you spilled a bunch of BLO on the glove? Would that do it?
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Post by sachbvn on Apr 23, 2010 3:12:45 GMT -6
I use BLO and CA daily so....nah - that's not likely the source.
Zac
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Post by TDHofstetter on Apr 23, 2010 6:57:25 GMT -6
Baking soda on the glove would do it. What're they powdered with? I'd think it was talc, which is... lessee... hydrated magnesium silicate. I wonder if talc acts as a CA accelerator like baking soda does?
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Post by maxwellsmart007 on Apr 23, 2010 7:21:32 GMT -6
I've had a paper towel soaked in BLO start to smolder quite severely after I added CA to a pen...
It's usually the thin CA that rips through the towel, and reacts quickly....maybe the reaction is too slow with thick and medium?
Were you using thin CA?
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Post by Doug B on Apr 23, 2010 9:34:23 GMT -6
I have only had issues with the thin CA that I can remember. I see the smoking paper towels quite often, but only thin seems to penetrate the paper towel and really get hot.
I can certainly imagine the heat being enough to cause problems with Nitrile gloves, but, like Boodrow, I'm thick-skinned enough that I never use gloves when using CA. And yes, I sometimes have to peel it off my fingers ;D
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Post by triplefreak on Apr 23, 2010 9:36:18 GMT -6
OK, here's what happened. Step by step. I bought some Optiderm brand Nitrile (blue) exam gloves from a local store. I use them for various projects, mainly gluing up pen blanks. Anyway, I had one on last night, and I was using generic blue label thin CA glue to finish a turned blank. I was using a paper towel to apply the CA. I noticed a whiff of smoke from the CA when it hit the paper towel.
Here's where it gets interesting.
I applied the CA to the pen blank, & noticed brown smoke as soon as I did it. The CA soaked thru the paper towel & onto the nitrile glove. No big deal.
I took the glove off & laid it on the paper towel on the workbench. As soon as I got it off, it ignited into flames. Good thing I had a fire extinguisher next to my work bench, or it could have been good bye house.
Hopefully, this will help someone avoid what happened to me.
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Post by Doug B on Apr 23, 2010 9:52:26 GMT -6
Wow! That is scary. With all the wood shavings typically found all around a lathe, something like that could really be serious.
Thanks for the update TF. I still cannot figure out how that happened, but, is the brown smoke typical when you use that CA"? The CA/paper towel smoke I typically get is white. I'm just trying to figure this out because I use CA a lot, and I normally use all 4 corners of a folded up paper towel to apply a finish and just leave the smoking paper towel sitting on the ways to cool down between coats of CA.
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Post by triplefreak on Apr 23, 2010 9:59:59 GMT -6
I haven't used CA enough to say if brown smoke is normal or not, but I think not. Oh yeah, these are un-powdered gloves to boot.
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