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Post by triplefreak on Apr 19, 2010 10:39:44 GMT -6
I have some 3" thick stock I need to rip down for pen blanks.
My table saw won't cut that deep for some reason, but my RAS will.
Same size blade too. So, if I do it according to the saw manual, how safe is ripping with a RAS?
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Post by TDHofstetter on Apr 19, 2010 11:58:04 GMT -6
Do it with the table saw.
Rip it to the capacity of the saw, then flip it over & complete the rip from the other side.
I'd rather never rip with a RAS again, especially short stock. It's not so bad with, say, plywood... but short hardwoods are NOT COMFORTABLE to rip on a RAS. Not comfortable means not NEARLY as safe as other ways.
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Post by Ruffnek on Apr 19, 2010 12:03:13 GMT -6
What Tim said.
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Post by dicklaxt on Apr 19, 2010 12:03:22 GMT -6
I was ripping a siding board for corner trim and knocked a hole in new siding board on the exterior I had just put up.If I had been in the way of it,well end of story.They are an accident waiting to happen IMO.
dick
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Post by triplefreak on Apr 19, 2010 12:09:55 GMT -6
Jeebus! Thanks guys. I knew I could count on you. BTW, this piece of wood is about 48" long X 6" wide X 3" thick. I think it's Cameroon Wenge, IIRC. BTW, I know about the contact dermatitis problems with this wood. I plan on wearing long sleeves & a decent dust mask when I cut this stuff. Oh yeah, I practically stole this stuff. I bid $.99 for it on Ebay, and won. That guy was pizzed when he mailed it to me.  |
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Post by TDHofstetter on Apr 19, 2010 12:24:24 GMT -6
YOU ARE CHITTING! For WENGE??? ! ! ! THAT is a GLOAT!  |
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Post by triplefreak on Apr 19, 2010 12:26:49 GMT -6
YOU ARE CHITTING! For WENGE??? ! ! ! THAT is a GLOAT! Yeah, it's the truth. I got it from a guy in Tennessee. I think he was hoping to get a lot more than that, because it was a "free shipping deal", and no one else bid on it. I bet it cost him $30 or so to ship it. He lost his azz on that deal. ;D |
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Post by rrich on Apr 19, 2010 13:29:30 GMT -6
... but my RAS will. ... how safe is ripping with a RAS? To put it bluntly, it isn't safe. Please don't. Have you tried using a blade designed for rip cuts? (I mean something like a 18 or 24 tooth blade with all raker teethe.) |
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Post by Ruffnek on Apr 19, 2010 13:40:45 GMT -6
... but my RAS will. ... how safe is ripping with a RAS? To put it bluntly, it isn't safe. If pressed, Rich will tell you the RAS is an evil machine. ;D |
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Post by imahic on Apr 19, 2010 16:09:45 GMT -6
What Tim said as well.
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Post by sachbvn on Apr 19, 2010 16:55:40 GMT -6
Yeah - this topic has been brought up before, I think regarding pen blanks too - ripping on RAS just sounds like a terrible idea. Not to beat a dead horse....
Oh - and by the way, NICE FRIGGIN GLOAT!!!!
Yeah, to be honest - I'm surprised the guy didn't back out of the auction..... seriously, what kind of guy would put something that big up for auction with free shipping and no reserve???
Zac
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Post by dcarter636 on Apr 19, 2010 19:22:01 GMT -6
Sounds like you got an an honorable, even though seriously screwed, seller.
A chunk that thick may harbor a blade pinch waiting to happen; with a piece that heavy there is a fair chance of bending the saw blade as you un-pinch it.
I would cut nearly half way through on the table saw, flip it over and guiding the same edge against the rip fence, cut through all but 1/8" or so to prevent a pinch. then get out a handsaw and finish the job.
You might not guess it, but I have some experience with, and hate, blade pinches, especially with heavy stock.
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Post by Mark on Apr 19, 2010 21:34:25 GMT -6
Herb,
Even though I own only a RAS for my shop, ripping that piece of wood is not a task suited to that machine. If I was to do that cutting, I'd do it in small cross section strips. Cut just 3/4" deep on one face, then cut 3/4" deep on the face perp to the first cut, to strip out a 3/4" square strip.
I do though agree, that since you have a TS, do the 1/2 depth cut on one side, then flip over and cut again from the opposite side.
Mark
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Post by triplefreak on Apr 20, 2010 6:46:42 GMT -6
Yeah, to be honest - I'm surprised the guy didn't back out of the auction..... seriously, what kind of guy would put something that big up for auction with free shipping and no reserve??? Zac I guess he forgot to put a reserve on it. He had lots of stuff for sale, everything from big pieces of wood to turning blanks for bowls, etc. He probably got busy listing all his stuff, and just forgot. If I remember correctly, he had about 150 items for bid that day. I try to find stuff with no reserve first. You'd be surprized what you can get on Ebay, wood-wise. |
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Post by rhull on Apr 20, 2010 6:55:00 GMT -6
To put it bluntly, it isn't safe. If pressed, Rich will tell you the RAS is an evil machine. ;D I'll tell you the same.  |
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Post by triplefreak on Apr 20, 2010 12:25:07 GMT -6
I went with my table saw. I already had a new Freud thin kerf saw blade installed on it. I sliced it up into some nice pen blanks, along with some Mesquite & some really nice Cocobolo. Thanks for the help, guys.
Maybe one of you will get lucky with the pan blank box & get some of this nice Wenge or Cocobolo in it. ;D
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Post by dicklaxt on Apr 20, 2010 14:58:09 GMT -6
I would offer to pay the shipping if it were me ;D
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Post by sonnyedmonds on Apr 28, 2010 20:13:57 GMT -6
Yeah - this topic has been brought up before, I think regarding pen blanks too - ripping on RAS just sounds like a terrible idea. Not to beat a dead horse.... Oh - and by the way, NICE FRIGGIN GLOAT!!!! Yeah, to be honest - I'm surprised the guy didn't back out of the auction..... seriously, what kind of guy would put something that big up for auction with free shipping and no reserve??? Zac A greenhorn, Zac. A Greenhorn. Heck of a way to learn how to sell on Ebay. Personally, I won't play on Ebay. |
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Post by sonnyedmonds on Apr 28, 2010 20:25:30 GMT -6
You'd be MUCH better off cutting your pen blanks on a band-saw.
Even if you have to buy one.
Circular saw blades eat a huge amount of stock, especially when going from big down to small like pen blanks.
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Post by RiverWalker on May 9, 2010 8:20:48 GMT -6
wow... I'm surprised.
I thought radial arm saws were better for most things than table saws.
I mean I get that for SHORT ripping it wouldn't be good, but somewhere along the line I picked up the idea that they were less prone to ripping kickbacks.
is this one of those things where there are rival camps, with one side thinking that the <whatever the object of discussion is> are the best thing since bread, and the other side thinks they are horrible?
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