Joe Lyddon
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Post by Joe Lyddon on Nov 7, 2009 19:50:11 GMT -6
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Post by woodmangler on Nov 8, 2009 4:20:26 GMT -6
Thanks Joe.
Over on the IAP there are so many posts asking about how to apply a CA finish it is amazing...
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Post by maxwellsmart007 on Nov 8, 2009 10:42:34 GMT -6
And no consensus as to the proper way - everyone has their own method which works for them..
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Post by rhull on Nov 8, 2009 10:48:26 GMT -6
I use pretty much the same method as Marc, except I don't apply the CA with the lathe spinning. I manually rotate as I apply. I found I was getting too many bumps and lines applying the CA with the lathe spinning.
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Post by sachbvn on Nov 8, 2009 11:06:36 GMT -6
Thanks Marc! Do you prefer this CA methord over using something like Crystal HUT (I think that's the name, Woodcraft sells it) friction polish?
Zac
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Doug B
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Post by Doug B on Nov 8, 2009 11:21:35 GMT -6
Great write up Marc! Do you really use thin CA for the entire finish? I like to use thin for the first coat so it soaks in as deep as possible, then medium for remaining coats.
I have always figured that medium or thick CA would build up quicker and require fewer coats than thin CA and being the lazy sort, I use the medium... usually 4 coats.
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Post by woodmangler on Nov 8, 2009 11:30:23 GMT -6
Thanks Marc! Do you prefer this CA methord over using something like Crystal HUT (I think that's the name, Woodcraft sells it) friction polish? I haven't found any friction polish or wax or Poly U or whatever that holds up anywhere near as well as CA. In my opinion it is worth the effort to develop a method of applying a good CA finish. |
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Post by woodmangler on Nov 8, 2009 11:31:28 GMT -6
I use pretty much the same method as Marc, except I don't apply the CA with the lathe spinning. I manually rotate as I apply. I found I was getting too many bumps and lines applying the CA with the lathe spinning. Me too... until I got the new Jet... it has a slow speed of 50, so I just use that and it works for me... |
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Post by woodmangler on Nov 8, 2009 11:34:14 GMT -6
I have always figured that medium or thick CA would build up quicker and require fewer coats than thin CA and being the lazy sort, I use the medium... usually 4 coats. Every time I have tried to do things quicker or get lazy it usually looks like krap ;D I did like you, but I have found that a lot of thin coats, sanded in between, comes out with a better "depth" to the finish... and not so plastic looking. |
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Post by Doug B on Nov 8, 2009 12:06:59 GMT -6
OK, you talked me into trying multiple thin coats of CA for the final finish. I actually like using the thin CA with lathe turning on slowest speed and hold the bottle over the top of the blank with paper towel below the blank. For medium CA I always apply with the CA on the paper towel and wipe on. I'll just blame you if it doesn't turn out well for me ;D Seriously I have seen so many different ways to do a CA finish and it seems like there never is one way that works for everyone. You just have to experiment until you find something that works, and use that until someone comes up with something different that sounds interesting. It is a never ending quest to find the perfect finish  |
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Post by Joe Lyddon on Nov 8, 2009 13:07:43 GMT -6
I'm no expert... BUT, wouldn't CA end up to be about the Hardest finish you can get... next to lacquer?   |
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Post by maxwellsmart007 on Nov 9, 2009 10:35:50 GMT -6
Yep, CA is about as hard a finish as you can get...but it's a bugger to get right! Doug, I thought you switched to Tim's dip method? Andrew |
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Post by Doug B on Nov 9, 2009 10:52:36 GMT -6
I tried the Lacquer dip method on some pens and on a snowman and I really like it for certain woods that give me trouble when I use a CA finish on them. I like the results I get with both methods, but the CA method is quicker but I'd say the Lacquer dip method is a whole lot easier to master and more reliable for getting a very nice glossy finish with. I have spent the last 2 years trying to master the CA finish and it will be hard to give it up without a really good reason. However, there are certain woods that I just cannot consistently get a good CA finish on. My last attempt was to use a sanding sealer (basically a 2 lb cut of dewaxed shellac) prior to applying the CA finish. That was working out real well until I had one failure and had to sand all the finish off a pen and re-apply it - I used the Lacquer dip method on that pen and it worked wonderfully. The woods that give me the most trouble with a CA finish are Cocobolo, Bubinga, Paduak, Ebony, and oddly...Walnut. The Walnut seems out of place in that list, but I've had some successful and some not so successful CA finishes on Walnut for some reason.  The problem I have had with those woods is a ghosting or clouding that shows up in the finish. |
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