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Post by rrich on Feb 5, 2010 15:33:40 GMT -6
I got an E-Mail from Grizzly offering a router table. (G0528) Nothing remarkable except that the table is capable of handling a 5 HP router.
Now I don't think that I need anything more than the typical 3-1/4 HP router for a router table.
The interesting thing is that I've never seen nor heard of a 5 HP router. Is that something that would be available only in countries with 230 Volt electricity as their primary voltage?
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Post by sachbvn on Feb 5, 2010 17:48:46 GMT -6
I'm trying to think..... doesn't Milwaukee carry a 5hp router? I can't remember.... It'd clearly be all you'd ever need from a router!
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Post by TDHofstetter on Feb 5, 2010 18:29:17 GMT -6
I'm thinkin' it might be one of the big monster air routers. You can't pull 5HP out of any 120V router, no way nohow. Could be a 240V one, but I'm betting it'd hafta' be air.
C'n you imagine hanging onto a 5HP router, handheld? Spinning a bit that JUSTIFIES all five o' them horses?
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Post by sachbvn on Feb 5, 2010 19:06:07 GMT -6
....Tim - all I can picture is those crazy Acme "Merry Melody" cartoons.... the character holding on to the router and spinning round and round while the router stays in place!
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Post by sawduster on Feb 5, 2010 19:35:50 GMT -6
I'm thinkin' it might be one of the big monster air routers. You can't pull 5HP out of any 120V router, no way nohow. Could be a 240V one, but I'm betting it'd hafta' be air. C'n you imagine hanging onto a 5HP router, handheld? Spinning a bit that JUSTIFIES all five o' them horses? What choo talkin 'bout can't get 5 ponies out of 120 V? Got me a shop vac runs on 120V and says like 6 1/4 HP. ;D I was thinkin long those lines that maybe Crapsman or someone has one "rated" at 5 HP. You know how dem Universal (or DC as Limey used to call em) motors are. Nah, I don't know of any, and if they were true 5 HP they'd need to be 240 V. Just did a google on 5 hp router, and the only thing came up in the first page was a 3 phase over arm Grizzly. |
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Post by Ruffnek on Feb 5, 2010 19:49:38 GMT -6
I went to Grizzly's site to view the router table (and the 5 hp overarm router). That sliding table feature on the router table is pretty neat but not $500 worth of neat.
FWIW, I've been running a 2 1/4 hp PC 895 in my table for 3 or 4 years without any power problems. I think even a 3 1/4 hp router is overkill unless one is cutting raised panels nearly every day.
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Post by Beamer on Feb 5, 2010 23:11:19 GMT -6
FWIW, I've been running a 2 1/4 hp PC 895 in my table for 3 or 4 years without any power problems. I think even a 3 1/4 hp router is overkill unless one is cutting raised panels nearly every day. AGREED! Horsepower for the sake of horsepower is silly, in my book  |
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Post by admin on Feb 6, 2010 13:45:41 GMT -6
FWIW, I've been running a 2 1/4 hp PC 895 in my table for 3 or 4 years without any power problems. I think even a 3 1/4 hp router is overkill unless one is cutting raised panels nearly every day. AGREED! Horsepower for the sake of horsepower is silly, in my book But what about those times that you MUST be in the hospital by 9 to get your free toaster as part of the "Frequently Injured Customers" program? 5 Horse is a LOT more power than I personally want to try and control. Maybe in a table, but definitely not by hand. Maybe if I did a lot with seasoned woods with a high Janka, maybe. But for the ordinary stuff, no way. |
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Post by sachbvn on Feb 6, 2010 14:07:15 GMT -6
Even in a table....all I can picture is the table spinning in circles!!!
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Post by Joe Lyddon on Feb 6, 2010 14:40:50 GMT -6
Sometimes LESS horsepower is better...
That lil Bosch Colt router I got awhile back is really SWEET...
... just great for rounding over edges...
... small enough to fit in hand(s) and to control.
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Post by rrich on Feb 6, 2010 22:53:16 GMT -6
I was in a focus group a few years ago. An engineer asked, what if we could build a 3-1/4 HP router motor in the size and shape our 1-1/2 one? (Apparently it was one of his pet projects that was going to get him promoted to VP of Engineering.) If you ever want to see a really irritated engineer, just ask them the WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT? question.
It was kind of funny. I told him that hand holding a 3-1/4 HP router is a real chore and that the bits that require that much horse power should NEVER be used in a hand held operation.
So now maybe we could find that engineer and get him to design a 5 HP router for the Griz table. ;D
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Post by art3427 on Feb 8, 2010 8:47:11 GMT -6
5hp router motors are quite the norm on those huge CNC routers. I've seen them speced to 7.5 hp or more. They are definitely not intended for hand held operations. These huge motors are what allows the CNC to operate at super high "inchs per minute " (ipm) rates.
I'll bet them things have a scream that will blow your ear drums!
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Post by sawduster on Feb 8, 2010 9:10:19 GMT -6
5hp router motors are quite the norm on those huge CNC routers. I've seen them speced to 7.5 hp or more. They are definitely not intended for hand held operations. These huge motors are what allows the CNC to operate at super high "inchs per minute " (ipm) rates. I'll bet them things have a scream that will blow your ear drums! art Getting into motors that size, I'm thinking we're talking about induction motors instead of the universal motors on most wood working routers, so they may not make as much noise as you might think. |
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Post by dejure on Mar 6, 2010 18:23:27 GMT -6
At five horses, one might as well call it what it is - a hand held shaper.
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Post by rrich on Mar 6, 2010 21:25:22 GMT -6
At five horses, one might as well call it what it is - a hand held shaper. Umm, "Hand Held Automatic Leg Amputator"? |
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Post by sawduster on Mar 7, 2010 9:51:07 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm thinkin you would definitely want somethin like that to have "soft start". When I hit the start button on my 3HP table saw, there is a very solid "thunk" as it jumps up to speed.  |
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Post by Ruffnek on Mar 7, 2010 15:13:21 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm thinkin you would definitely want somethin like that to have "soft start". When I hit the start button on my 3HP table saw, there is a very solid "thunk" as it jumps up to speed. Better make sure it has the latest "flesh detecting technology" installed too. ;D
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Post by imahic on Mar 10, 2010 20:55:11 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm thinkin you would definitely want somethin like that to have "soft start". When I hit the start button on my 3HP table saw, there is a very solid "thunk" as it jumps up to speed. Better make sure it has the latest "flesh detecting technology" installed too. ;D Might need to call it RouterStop or something maybe?  ;D |
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Post by CajunRider on Mar 12, 2010 5:27:27 GMT -6
FWIW, I've been running a 2 1/4 hp PC 895 in my table for 3 or 4 years without any power problems. I think even a 3 1/4 hp router is overkill unless one is cutting raised panels nearly every day. AGREED! Horsepower for the sake of horsepower is silly, in my book CjR the tool man disagrees. ARRARRRRR ARRRRR Right now I want a 12" table saw with a power feeder. A 10 1/4" circular saw (This one I really need). A 32" sander, a 25" planer, a 20"jointer etc.. |
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Post by Joe Lyddon on Mar 12, 2010 13:11:24 GMT -6
Caj, Why cut yourself short...  Why not get a 32" planer AND a 32" jointer?!  That way, you can always plane what you can joint... ... and sand everything that you can plane! ;D ;D ;D I know you can see the LOGIC behind my idea... Yes? ;D |
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