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Post by dburkhart on Feb 3, 2010 17:41:43 GMT -6
The delta band saw will only cut atn 6.250 inches high i am making a taylor rocking chair.The head rest is the problem does anyone have the grizzly go513 17 model and how do they like it. they say it will cut 12.125
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Post by TDHofstetter on Feb 3, 2010 18:16:29 GMT -6
I've got the GO555 with the riser block - it'll do 12". BUT... others have the GO513 & love it, too.
You can't get a riser block for that Delta? Not that I'm trying to talk you out of a tool purchase, don't get me wrong there... I'm just thinkin' that a riser block should give you 12-1/4" out of the Delta, and it costs a LOT less than a whole new saw.
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Post by dburkhart on Feb 3, 2010 18:24:09 GMT -6
Hey Tim do you know that you can get one for a Delta that would be sweet
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Post by Joe Lyddon on Feb 3, 2010 18:40:15 GMT -6
I too have the G0555 with riser block... ... it's funny... I wanted to be able to cut more than 6"...
I think maybe I've done it maybe 4 times since having it... and nowhere near 12"... maybe 6"-7" at the most.
BUT, when you need it, you NEED it... yes? ;D ;D
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Post by Joe Lyddon on Feb 3, 2010 18:41:55 GMT -6
I've got the GO555 with the riser block - it'll do 12". BUT... others have the GO513 & love it, too. You can't get a riser block for that Delta? Not that I'm trying to talk you out of a tool purchase, don't get me wrong there... I'm just thinkin' that a riser block should give you 12-1/4" out of the Delta, and it costs a LOT less than a whole new saw. ... and ALL of your current blades would be instantly obsolete. ;D
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Post by Beamer on Feb 3, 2010 20:32:37 GMT -6
I have a Jet 14" that i adore. I've adored it since I bought it 5 years ago. It's a hell of a saw - changing blades is a snap - thumbscrews on everything and all adjustments are super easy. Love that saw .... ... buuuuuuuuuut ... ... It only does 6" of resaw and I got a pile of 12" wide curly cherry that I'd love to slice veneers from. Well crud ... buy the block, i guess ... Then I realized - I had just bought $200 worth of 93 1/2" blades for it that would instantly be useless. Frick. And ... I wasn't so sure I wanted to put it's 3/4hp motor through a ton of resawing full 12" wide boards, either. It'd probably be okay, but I'd surely be pushing it. So ... I now absolutely adore my Grizzly G0513x2! The saw is a beast of a beast, for sure. Massive cast iron wheels that take all the bumps outta resawing. A nice beefy motor to do that job, too. Except ... two problems with the saw: It's got these fantastic ball bearing guides that are just too big for a thin blade to fit between without mashin' the gullets. Also, changing blades is more involved since all the guides need tools to adjust. So ... I now adore BOTH my Jet 14" saw and my Grizzly G0513x2 Another small irritation is that the big grizzly's saw has so much cast iron in the wheels that it takes a full 22 seconds for my blade to stop when i hit the Off button. But they came out with the G0513x2b - which has an electronic motor brake that stops the blade in something like 3 seconds. I kinda lust after that feature just a little It's a GREAT saw - everything it does is powerful and respectable. It really excels at cutting thick stuff
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Post by TDHofstetter on Feb 3, 2010 22:36:43 GMT -6
Hey Tim do you know that you can get one for a Delta that would be sweet MAN - they want a lot of money for the kit! Comparitively, anyway. On the other hand, it IS a nicely-machined dozen pounds of cast iron plus the lengthened guide bar & guards & such. www.amazon.com/Delta-28-984-Attachment-14-Inch-Bandsaws/dp/B00004Y9GCOne wonders if the Grizzly riser block kit would fit it - that's a "maybe" situation. There might be enough difference to make it a no-go situation.
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Post by Doug B on Feb 3, 2010 22:51:21 GMT -6
I don't know if the Grizzly riser will fit the Delta, but I know it fits the Ridgid 14" and it might work on the Delta. I wonder if there is a way to know for sure? I remember a lot of guys over at the Ridgid forum recommended the Grizzly riser because it was lots cheaper. I got one and it works like a charm on my Ridgid, and the green does not clash too bad with the orange
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Post by Joe Lyddon on Feb 3, 2010 23:20:33 GMT -6
... It only does 6" of resaw and I got a pile of 12" wide curly cherry that I'd love to slice veneers from. Well crud ... buy the block, i guess ... Then I realized - I had just bought $200 worth of 93 1/2" blades for it that would instantly be useless. Frick. And ... I wasn't so sure I wanted to put it's 3/4hp motor through a ton of resawing full 12" wide boards, either. It'd probably be okay, but I'd surely be pushing it. I was able to sell my blades... which helped out a little... better than trash. If they're brand new, you could probably get 75% of the purchase... which is better than nothing.
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Post by Beamer on Feb 3, 2010 23:31:17 GMT -6
... It only does 6" of resaw and I got a pile of 12" wide curly cherry that I'd love to slice veneers from. Well crud ... buy the block, i guess ... Then I realized - I had just bought $200 worth of 93 1/2" blades for it that would instantly be useless. Frick. And ... I wasn't so sure I wanted to put it's 3/4hp motor through a ton of resawing full 12" wide boards, either. It'd probably be okay, but I'd surely be pushing it. I was able to sell my blades... which helped out a little... better than trash. If they're brand new, you could probably get 75% of the purchase... which is better than nothing. I just kept the saw they go to. That worked out better
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Post by Joe Lyddon on Feb 3, 2010 23:46:31 GMT -6
I don't have the room for 2 band saws...
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Post by rrich on Feb 3, 2010 23:59:12 GMT -6
I have a Griz 514X2. It is a 19" extreme and built in a ISO 9001 factory.
The saw was purchased to replace my open stand Delta 14" saw. I made my decision after using a Laguna and an old Oliver at school.
IMHO, it would be difficult to purchase a better made band saw. Griz has done it right with this one.
The only irritation with the saw is the interlock on the stop button. When the stop button is pushed, it is necessary to twist a ring on the stop button before the saw can be started again.
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Post by Ruffnek on Feb 4, 2010 10:18:15 GMT -6
does anyone have the grizzly go513 17 model and how do they like it. they say it will cut 12.125 I have it and like it. It will likely be the last bandsaw I buy. I don't think I've ever re-sawn 12" stock on it other than just playing around but recently I re-sawed some 3/32 veneer from all the different woods I have in the shop. I used a new 3/4", 3 tpi Timberwolf blade and a tall, shop-built fence. The saw has a heavy spring and frame so tensioning the 3/4" blade is no problem. I was really impressed at the cleaness of the cut on the veneer. I jointed between passes but there isn't a lot of difference between the jointed side and the sawn side. The only thing I need to do is see if cool blocks are available for the guides on this saw. Like Beamer said, it's impossible to run tiny (1/8") blades on it without ruining the set or sharpness with the roller guides. If I can't buy cool blocks for it I'll make my own one of these days. There are bigger and better band saws...Minimax and Laguna come to mind, but value-wise, I don't think Grizzly can be beat. Edit in: You could go with a 6" head rest but you would probably need to lengthen the back slats...or maybe not. The head rest on the current chair I'm making is about 7 1/4" and I still had to cut off over an inch from the back slats to get them to final size. Once you have the bottoms of the back slats shaped, you can mark them for final length by marking the curve on the headrest, setting the backslats in place on the chair bottom and then seeing how far above the curve line the back slats extend (you need 7/8"). In your case, just set the headrest 6" below the top of the back legs simulating a 6" head rest.
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Post by dburkhart on Feb 4, 2010 11:01:53 GMT -6
thanks everyone I just might buy that saw i havent bought anything in a while.Hey cody there is a curve on the top and bottom of the headrest how do you get that when we cut where you screw it to at 6 inches
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Post by Ruffnek on Feb 4, 2010 12:27:32 GMT -6
I'm not sure what you are asking but I think it's about the headrest screw holes. If you haven't drilled the countersink holes in the back legs yet, just adjust the hole spacing to fit the 6" headrest. If you have drilled them, then a 6" headrest may not cover the hole spacing. Mark the curves on your headrest and see if it will cover the screw holes and also see if the backslats are long enough. (or go ahead and get a new bandsaw. ;D ) See dwg.
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Post by rrich on Feb 4, 2010 15:13:51 GMT -6
Just a dumb thought here...
When we speak of installing "riser" kits in band saws we always talk about increased depth of cut.
HOWEVER
Never having even used a band saw with a riser kit...
Doesn't a riser kit limit the minimum height of the upper blade guide? I almost always set the upper guide to about 1/2" above the stock for safety.
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Post by sawduster on Feb 4, 2010 15:58:35 GMT -6
The riser kit that I got when I ordered my Griz came with a longer rod to which the upper blade guide is attached. This allowed it to be lowered all of the way to the table from the new height. I set my upper guide to about that or less above the stock as it also helps to keep the cut vertical (or at what angle the table is tilted to) and keeps it from wandering.
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Post by Stretch on Feb 4, 2010 18:56:25 GMT -6
There are bigger and better band saws...Minimax and Laguna come to mind, but value-wise, I don't think Grizzly can be beat. We had a Minimax where I used to work. I really wasn't impressed with it. After looking at the Grizzlies at their showroom I think I'd go for a Grizzly over a Minimax even if the prices were the same.
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Post by TDHofstetter on Feb 4, 2010 23:41:52 GMT -6
Just a dumb thought here... When we speak of installing "riser" kits in band saws we always talk about increased depth of cut. HOWEVER Never having even used a band saw with a riser kit... Doesn't a riser kit limit the minimum height of the upper blade guide? I almost always set the upper guide to about 1/2" above the stock for safety. Mine came with the riser proper, a 6" longer guide support rod, and two 6" longer guards (one for the rising side, one for the falling side). It's really a complete package, soup to nuts. A "risered" bandsaw is exactly like a stock one, just taller.
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Post by Ruffnek on Feb 5, 2010 7:44:27 GMT -6
Don't feel bad, Rich. I asked the same question over at the other forum.
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